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Currently thinking ab Traitor by Matthew Stover as a parallel to Dante’s Inferno

Both are about the main character going through the lands of the dead and emerging as new, enlightened people.

Vergere & Virgil are both guides through the land of the dead (their names are even similar!)

The embrace of pain is limbo

Lust, I don’t know, I’m looking for answers for this one.

Gluttony is the garden of the Dhuryams

Greed is the mouth/stomach/worm thing that those people are living in.

Anger is when Vergere ‘betrays’ Jacen to Nom Amir and the Vong warriors and he fills the room with force lighting

Heresy is when Jacen learns the truth that there is no light or dark side of the force

Violence is when Ganner fights hundreds of Vong at once.

Fraud is when Jacen fakes a defection to the side of the Vong.

Treachery is when Jacen and the world brain work together to subvert the Vong.

My main question now is, who are the three in the heads of the devil? One option is that the three are Jacen, Vergere and Nom Anor, as they are the three the book is primarily about, but this is the easy answer. Anakin Skywalker could be one of the heads, as he is famously a traitor, though he did not stay one his entire life. Jacen is likely one as well. Who else could be?

lost in these memories

I approached your Imitation with admittedly more than a little trepidation. The description said that a clone — Thrawn’s clone — was to be babysat. I skipped the fic several time. What I almost did was bypass the chef-d'oeuvre of you catalogue!

Partially, we have an elaborate what-if had Thrawn not experienced life as he did, but this evaluation would be selling the story far short of the masterpiece that it is. It is also a parallel story of sentience, and the realization that the clone — the “it”, the object owned — is indeed an independent, thinking, breathing individual quite apart from its Prime, Thrawn. Echoes of my all-time favourite episode of Star Trek TNG, The Measure of a Man written by the incomparable Melinda M Snodgrass, are tickling my memory…

We know that Thrawn did indeed have a clone in the EU, and when Mara Jade & Luke encountered that clone (still developing) there was a moral/ethical dilemma regarding his right to live, as independent of Thrawn’s crimes (not visiting the sins of the father, etc) When the same dilemma comes to pass in your fic, we are all delighted in the outcome (I know; I read all 60+ comments) Let’s discuss your point of departure in writing this fic:

We’re you inspired by the initial story of Thrawn’s clone (as mentioned above)?

We learn as much about Thrawn as we do about the clone, which I found pleasantly satisfying. Did you intend to make these revelations from the start?

There is altogether a sensual, bittersweet, and incredibly tender mix in this fic. It is powerful & it leaves an imprint. Do you feel these emotions, yourself, as you are writing?

Please feel free to depart entirely from my queries & discuss the genesis of this story as you will.

I am sure that it is patently obvious that I really liked this fic — as intense & cerebral as it often was (with a bit of kink thrown in to keep us warm) I do appreciate the time and effort it took to write, the pleasure it brought me, and most importantly the time you are giving me as you read this overwrought “Ask”

Thank you for this marvellous ask @beebee-76 that is (as is your wont) full of wonderful questions and generous with beautiful praise! Come follow me below the cut as I get to provide background and detail on this clone-centric story!

I first have to comment on your reveal that the summary of this fic—that the clone was to be babysat—put you off it! I am so glad you read it anyway, and I hope that future readers won’t skip it due to that info. I admit I don’t angst too much about summaries but I clearly didn’t do justice to this fic with that one! 😊 But wow, so happy you've dubbed it my chef-d'oeuvre and I can only wonder if it will remain in that #1 position when you’ve finished exploring my fic mansion 😊 What a glorious compliment. I’m just blushing with this “masterpiece” characterization and absolutely thrilled it inspired such interest and these fabulous comparisons (TNG has so many classic episodes and it’s an honor to be an echo of one!)!

So as to your questions and my “point of departure” when writing Imitation…

I usually start writing with just the idea of one thing I wish to accomplish. More often than not, it’s smut related to a specific pairing (since you read all the comments on this fic, you can see how shocked some of my regular readers were at the ‘no smut’ tag!). In this particular case, it was merely to contribute to the Attack of the Clones collection (hopefully with smut).

I am blessed with two online communities of enablers, one for each of my men, and we all decided to write clone-centric fic for a fun challenge. Thus I intended to write a clone Luke fic and a clone Thrawn fic to satisfy both camps 😊 For years I had been threatening a clone gangbang for Mara, and that one came easy (hahah pun assuredly intended). So my pervy general idea going into this one was to give Pryce a little double team action with Thrawn’s clone joining my evil OTP. You can see it didn’t work out quite like I had hoped hahaha!

I also try to (with all my stories) snug them into canon/Legends as close as possible, so I definitely wanted to use the actual existence of Thrawn’s clone in the Hand of Thrawn duology here. Naturally, I decided to set the fic on Nirauan, where we knew our blue stud had a clone in Vision of the Future, and I pulled all the details about the actual room and building/planet where the clone was “grown” from Zahn's book. The difference of course was I had to get Pryce there! But the inspiration from that book pretty much was limited to location and the fact of the clone being a thing in the EU, as well as the Chiss being its intended guardians at the tower. It made sense to me, that Thrawn’s ego would want a clone, so easy enough as a setup right?

You know Mara’s thinking Thrawn must’ve had a nice ass...

You also ask if I intended to make revelations about Thrawn from the start, and the answer is (almost always) to any “did you intend to” “did you plan to” a big loud “NO”.

I wish I could take credit for being smart enough to strategize how to use Thrawn’s clone to teach us about Thrawn himself, but it was accidental! I am the very definition of a pantser and I never outline or plot, I truly let my hands do the typing and follow and discover the story as it comes from fingers to screen, more often than not entirely bypassing my brain. It’s one of my favorite things about writing and of course one of the most frustrating. I can have a very clear idea about what I’m going to achieve with a fic--here it was “Sexy Threesome with Thrawn Clone” and obviously this fic is Not That. The characters always do whatever they want and I just witness and channel. It’s a kind of magic, really, and I know not all writers work the same way as I do, but if I had to put any actual planning or work into writing, I don’t think it would be the same kind of fun it is for me.

As for your beautiful question about feeling the emotions of the fic when I write, that answer is most definitely a big loud ‘YES’, but it’s even louder and bigger when I reread. It’s the ultimate test for me to review and read my story after the fact and if I have those butterflies in the stomach, the chest tightness where it’s warranted, the disgust or dismay or whatever the words are trying to convey, then I know it’s working and I’m pleased. In fact, I have a “butterfly” test when writing smut…there has to be at least one (hopefully more) parts where I have a physical reaction (squees are valid! Covering eyes with “omg did I really write that” mortification is also valid!) or I have to go back and work on more details to capture some sort of visceral, deep feeling with words.  I give myself bonus points if the flutter happens even after repeated rereads 🥂

It’s probably another reason I tend to only write fic with happy endings. I don’t want to finish a story and feel disappointed or sad, I want everyone to be sated, pleased, content, or at least have hope. The few fics I have written that have more ambiguous ends sort of haunt me as a result…

I’m so thrilled that you took a chance on a fic you had doubts about and wound up really liking it! As a fanfic writer, it’s the most rewarding thing in the world to not just have people read my stories, but know that they inspire thought after the fact, that you want to know more about it, the characters, the process, any of that is just warm-fuzzy inspiring and wonderful.  I also love knowing that my story didn’t disappoint, despite your misgivings, and I hope that my “Works” page never does!  Thank you for being such a fabulous, engaged reader.  Please have a Thrawn gif in thanks for this opportunity to gush at you this evening!

I think if you really want to know what kind of a person Thrawn is, all you have to do is to look at the Empire of the Hand, which is described thusly on Wookieepedia:

“…a confederacy composed of native species that Grand Admiral Thrawn founded in the Unknown Regions that adopted the order and efficiency of Emperor Palpatine's New Order, but without the Emperor's megalomania, the Tarkin Doctrine, and the institutionalized xenophobia…

…an original combination of Chiss and Imperial tactics personally arranged by the Grand Admiral, such as respect of the enemies, careful consideration of soldiers' lives, surgical strikes, demonstrative invasions, preventive strikes and the significant use of intelligence gathering.”

So the Galactic Empire at its most effective without the tyranny, bigotry, fascism, and compulsory membership. Not bad for an organization founded by a warlord.

Also, for anyone who is unfamiliar with the more obscure Legends Thrawn books (pssst! you’re missing out, I gotta say 😉), the Hand is like the little group of friends he made out of the aliens and Chiss at the end of Lesser Evil. Now take that, add everyone in the seventh fleet, and multiply it by a couple tens of thousands, and you have an idea of what it was like.

Plus they eventually developed Chiss-built star destroyers and Stent. How dope is that?!!

A lot of fans project onto him many positive characteristics due to the new canon books, but it’s all the same Thrawn, he just gets darker over time.

Old EU/Rebels Thrawn: Ruthless. Coldhearted. Calculating. Mean.

Book Thrawn: Nerd. Socially inept. Meets his crush’s racist parents with a smile. Wants to save everyone in the Galaxy. Writes poetic and emotionally charged farewells. Can’t drive. Likes to cosplay.

Here is a short fic very similar to this idea;

And obviously, much more can be done and it could go 1000 different ways. Got my own Thrawn clone AU already going in my head and being written out… Thrawn clones are very compelling OCs because they can be as similar or different from the original as you like…

One of the ideas for Thrawn, which I liked very much, is the one I read long ago in an interview with Timothy Zahn (so I may not remember it exactly correct) and it went something like this:

After Thrawn's death at the hands of Rukh Luke and Mara discover that Thrawn left clones of himself scattered around the galaxy, imprinted with all his knowledge, precisely in case he died. Which is so Thrawn, but I digress.

We already got to see Luke and Mara accidentally destroy one of these clones in the old Expanded Universe, but what we never got was Zahn's idea for a sequel, which was to have one of these clones actually wake up, and The Hand of Thrawn and Empire expecting him to continue off where original Thrawn left off, and this clone basically.... not wanting to.

And as much as I like Thrawn, and I understand why Zahn was asked to write about Thrawn who guarantees book sales, I think this would have been such a better route to take in the new canon.

First, the idea is intriguing. Thrawn's clone who has same mind, same skills, same knowledge, but who almost crumbles under the pressure of expectation to fill in Thrawn's boots and who is haunted by memories of atrocities that aren't his but feel like they are.

Second, we would get a character who we could genuinely get behind. Without the ifs and buts and evil deeds to overlook. Who would have all the exciting skills and tactical brilliance, but always aim them in the right direction, but still with the question of: will he turn into Thrawn over time? Will he step over the line?

Third, it would be so interesting to see him in a completely different settings, surrounded by the Rebels or the New Republic, people who are kind and compassionate and understanding. Imagine Luke's compassion, who had visions of himself in Vaders helmet for this guy who sees Grand Admiral Thrawn every time he looks in the mirror. And who knows others see that as well.

Fourth, it would be so much in line with the message in Star Wars. Luke didn't follow in his father's footsteps. Boba Fett didn't become Jango, neither did all clones follow Order 66.

And Thrawn's clone wouldn't become Thrawn. Everyone has a choice to say no and do the right thing.

WHAT IS HAPPENONG

Some people seem to think that Palpatine being back (at least as a clone) is ok because the same thing happened in legends. It's not ok. Bringing him back was a bad decision in legends and it's a bad decision now.

I'm working on an AU that crosses The Amazing Digital Circus with Star Wars Legends, the characters I've drawn art for so far are Caine, Jax and Zooble. Caine is a Sith Lord known as Darth Kaptar, Jax is a Mandalorian known as Juvax Noll and Zooble... well Zooble is just Zooble, though she's a stormtrooper working for the Fel Empire. I'm currently working on Ragatha who will be a member of the Chiss Ascendency and I'm not sure about what I'll do with Kinger, Pomni, Gangle or Kaufmo yet, I plan to make either Pomni or Gangle a Jedi within Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order, however I'm not sure which of these two I should make a Jedi. The name I've come up for this AU is Galactic Misfits.

Yandere machine accident (always have eyes on your batchers.)

*nulls where just exploring some empty abandoned lab finding all sorts of interesting things all over but at the same time unsettling but null arcs being their normal selves- walking warning signs.*

Ordo: Mereel watch where you put yourself you di’kut this could be booby trapped!” *glaring at his daredevil batcher.*

Mereel: don’t worry so much Ordo or your hair my become snow if you do *He says that just as he throws his hands out in a expressive gesture smacking Ordo in the face making him stumble*

*the other nulls where- doing whatever they do for Ordo’s sake not causing issues…even if that is likley the case. He adjusted his stance only to get a sense someone was doing something they shouldn’t.*

Ordo: Mereel what is th- NO do no-“ *Ordo was cut off when the thing Mereel had in his hand turned on and started to shake before exploding in a bright light blinding both arcs and their screams.*

*the others Prudii, Kom'rk, Jaing and A'den came running to whoever’s their vode where finding the pair dazed, relief..though it was a wonder what happened…for now they needed to get their vode out. Least to say any hopes of this being easy or relief turned to dread later as Prudii reads what project this room contained- somerhinh that sounded like a fanfic di’kut wrote- Yandere machine, but for the nulls that was doom and would very much have to contain their two affected batchers contamination containment and fix them- somehow.

where is able now.

Last anyone who knows who clone troopers Able (Able/BL/CT-1707) is in the legends he ended up meeting a rather horribly sad fate getting turned into a literal mindless monster known as a rakghoul and left with other storm troopers or unlucky rebels all turned by Celeste Morne who bore the sith artifact muur talisman after he went to protect the Skywalker twins from her. later after she left with the army of rakghoul.

where are they now and I get the some idk how many see able dead, I truly don't think so..wiki be damned and if he truly is alive I honestly wonder if he can be saved along with others who went fully. I know I think you can stop the transformation but idk about when its complete..idk that may be the Rakghoul disease but regardless Able is a good man and to know maybe a sliver or at all he's out there..whatever's left if anything at all is trapped inside a curse by a necklace created by a crazy sith.

Happy holidays y’all

Saw this and had to do it with some of my favorite Star Wars characters >:]

I did this a while ago, forgot to put it anywhere lol

But honestly, the Og Star Wars run by marvel is so good, even if it did get a bit funky sometimes

Based off the thingy to the right :))

Going by legends/eu for all but Ashoka btw

Ignore (eu) canon, Mara is def taller

Aww, it’s Loverboy and Hatergirl!

Dark Empire Luke Skywalker WIP tee hee

I love them so much <33

What the Aurabesh says

Mara Jade (Emperor’s Hand)

Leia Organa (Princess)

Han Solo (Consort of Leia)

Luke Skywalker (Red Five)

Forgive me for this people of the Grievous Fandom

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Interrogation or smth idk-

Qymaen: shuttup!

Huk soldier: you shut up!

Qymaen: that's why you were captured so easily!

Huk Soldier: that's why Ronderu's dead

Huk Soldier: dead as hell

Huk Soldier: what shoes she got on

Qymaen:

Huk Soldier: what shoes she got on in the Jenuwaa sea?

Geonosians would probably sound like they're always autotuned if they ever spoke Galactic Basic/whatever the hell Star Wars English is.

So true, bestie

Ronderu didn't die during the Huk war she was actually back at camp with a broken hand after trying to punch a protocol droid during the time her death was supposed to happen. This is canon cause I was the Lucas film studio table.

Best wishes from the Dune Sea!

Nice day to remind you all about Jedi giving grown-up man(who started to groom this boy) an unrestricted access to the literal child in their care, while firing their workers from the job when their daughter is discoverd force-sensitive and never allowing them even to send her any gifts, or refusing to give two sentinet droids a right to see the son of their master.

Hey Y’all! I am back!! If you were wondering why I was MIA for so long, I blame this piece, but here it is finally! 

It started out as me going “huh I think it would be fun to make a “family tree” with Padawans and Masters” ...and then it just kept getting bigger and bigger....somebody please help these people they’re all connected and they’ve all got issues....

Anyways! I hope you enjoy it! 

The Dark Side is Red The Light Side is Blue

Characters (from left to right) First Row: Darth Maul, Ezra Bridger, Caleb Dume/Kanan Jarrus Second Row: Darth Sidious/Sheev Palpatine, Savage Opress,  Cyslin Myr, Depa Billaba Third Row: Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus, Yoda, Mace Windu Fourth Row: Asajj Ventress, Qui-Gon Jinn, Rey, Luke Skywalker, Snoke Fifth Row: Ky Narec, Feemor, Xanatos, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ben Solo/Kylo Ren Sixth Row: Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, Ahsoka Tano

This took so long, please someone reblog it haha edit: ...fixed the direction of the arrow for Ky Narec and Ventress...oops... 

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