Where Every Scroll is a New Adventure
Absolutely true. Let's no forget that at the end of S3, when they went back in time, he literally outed himself as a rapist as well. His words to Emma were that if she approached his past self, "the different between me now and that guy (his own past) is that I take no for an answer."
Fucking WHAT.
So, this guy admits on screen that he used to routinely sexually assault women and it is never addressed again and he's still treated like some suave Bad Boy that Emma should want to date?
Let's not talk about how he also lied about "well, I'll take no for an answer." Hello, the entire dynamic with this guy is that since he walked on screen in S2 he has not been respecting Emma's "no, I'm not interested, go away, stop lurking". He is literally that guy in a bar harassing a girl who turned him down because he thinks he can change her mind by being belligerent. He's never respected anyone's no, the narrators just made him eventually wear Emma down. And he apparently never respected anyone's no back then either.
Hook is a giant walking red flag and consent issue and the writers should be ashamed of trying to sell them as being in love.
Hook is basically a "Nice Guy". He told Emma she owed him a kiss for saving her father (no, the fact Emma kissed him first and liked it does not excuse how wrong this is), he doesn't take no (she told him the kiss was a one-time thing and her expressions show no interest in him) for an answer, can't comprehend why Emma doesn't want him even though he's "good" now, flat out told her he *will* win her heart, and in the end he got Emma as a reward for giving up his ship/"redeeming" himself.
pretty much. and the only reason his actions were often glossed over or interpreted as romantic was solely because he was played by a conventionally attractive white guy. if he had been played by mrj instead of c.olin or by any other less attractive actor you can bet no one would be willfully ignoring his gross bullshit.
FACTS.
Okay. I was typing a reblog and it somehow became a rant/spiel, so I’m making a whole post about it.
“The Crocodile” Episode? I know a this isn’t exactly an unpopular opinion, but I’mma say it anyway.
Granted - Hook became cool eventually. But I hated him for a LOT of the series on the grounds of his first impression alone.
Like it’s one thing to run off with a man’s wife. Rumple and Milah weren’t in love and the marriage wasn’t a good one. She put zero effort into their family and taking her off their hands may arguably have been better for everyone.
Spinner Rumple tried so hard to be a good husband and father, or at least to make their family work in a loveless marriage, and he deserved better.
But in spite of that, what Hook did to him on the ship crossed so many lines and he totally deserved to get owned for it.
Concerned husband boards a pirate ship to beg for his wife back, thinking she’s been abducted. Right off the bat: That right there took courage. It always pisses me off when OUAT characters call Spinner Rumple a coward, because he really wasn’t. The world put him through it and he was doing his damn best. Just showing up to the ship of bloodthirsty pirates, knowing that literally all he could do was beg and hope for the best, took guts.
Back to Hook. So this poor guy shows up to ask for his wife back unharmed. And shy of actually hurting Rumple, Hook decides to do quite possibly the cruelest thing he could have done:
Keep letting the spinner think that his wife had been taken against her will and that she was being raped by the whole crew.
If Milah was in on the lie, then in my opinion SHE was the cowardly one here. Not Rumple. You want to abandon your disabled husband and son to run off and live the high life with a pirate? Own your shit.
Yeah - Rumple didn’t pick up the sword when Hook challenged him to a duel over Milah. But let’s think about that for a sec shall we?
We have Rumplestiltskin: An older wool spinner with a disability. Who can’t walk all that well WITH his walking stick - much less without it, on a boat, and during a fight with a sword. Which he’s barely held in his life unless you count the crash-course he got as fodder- I mean a new recruit, when he was drafted into the Ogres War.
Versus Captain Jones: A younger, taller, stronger pirate. An experienced swordsman, comfortable on a ship, and with two good legs. AND with a loyal crew of OTHER strapping pirates who would probably kill Rumple even if by some miracle he DID take Hook by surprise or something.
Option A: Refuse to fight the bloodthirsty pirate, leave with your life but without your wife, and return home to your now motherless son.
Option B: Fight the bloodthirsty pirate, probably die or at least get badly injured (which could be death within a few days-weeks anyway given his financial situation and living conditions), the pirate takes your wife anyway, and your son is left an orphan who may or may not ever know what happened to you.
So there was no realistic scenario here where he fights off the pirates like a dashing hero and carries his wife home.
Rumplestiltskin is extremely smart. He always was. He knows when to pick his battles and he would have known all of that at a glance.
And yet Hook, this mothafucka, who must have realized all of this too and put Rumple in this situation in the first place, had the gall to act disgusted about it when Rumple refused to “fight like a man.” And then gaslit him into thinking that he was a coward and a fool for making what was obviously the more rational decision.
Now Hook is a pirate. I never would have expected much from him. But that’s no excuse. What he did was fucked. And karma is a bitch.
And yes I know this is a pretty commonly held opinion so it shouldn’t be new to anyone but I rewatched that episode recently and needed to get this off my chest. 😤