Realizing How Much Your Ghoul AU Hunter Would Break After Flapjacks Death, That Boy Will Go Through So

Whoops, I think is misused the word desensitized, I meant that he says pretty messed up stuff, therefore witnessed a lot a messed up without thinking that it’s wrong. The whole back-stabbing coven heads and training stuff.

I look back at the fight with Amity I think your right that in the fight. There where some moves that could’ve hurt her severely. Like the energy blasts and now that I think about it, those staff bashes look lethal if they where to hit Amity’s head. I also forgot about the Kikimora fight, yeah dude could be ruthless. But I mean their where other opportunities to hurt Amity he didn’t do, he could grabbed her with the first fist but he just punched her, instead of swinging his staff the grab the key he could’ve tried hitting her again. He was fighting more frantically with the aim of grabbing the key then the in wet by with kill.

The training accident I actually like! I forgot to even to consider that, I do agree if Hunter where to have a accidental kill it probably would be from training considering all the brutal stuff scouts had to do.

I also like the basilisk stuff too but due to it it never being quite comfirmed I decided not to write anything. However I’ve came to the conclusion that it’s never been denied either. So if he was involved in the experiments, it wasn’t often. When the basilisks escaped he probably was sent to Hunt them down. And probably killed one as a result.

The situation with the basilisks is a bit confusing as we see some other ones at the end of the show. Though I’m pretty sure those are the basilisks that escaped, so that also makes me question what happened to the other ones. So I wonder if Belos just killed them in the end before the day or unity. I wonder if Hunter knew about that if that did to happen.

If he was then yeah I don’t doubt Belos made them out to be mindless animals that just want to eat magic.

I definitely have my own story for how things go for Hunter, pre-meeting Luz though this was written with what’s canonically shown in mind.

Theirs definitely a lot of messed up stuff that can be explored that can’t be in the show due to it being a Disney cartoon.

As for the petrification, a reasoning I used was that a bunch of scouts are used for capturing wild witches. Which also makes me question if other scouts and coven members are aware of these petrifactions and if so, why not Hunter? I don’t think Hunter petrified witches himself but was rather was part of the process that leads to a petrification. He arrested them and then Belos was able to decide their fates. (The petrification)

So that’s what I mean by factor of death rather than cause or even reason for death.

Yeah, Hunter is a good person. No matter how much he’s manipulated or groomed into being some tool, he won’t harm for the sake of harming. Never would he kill and be casual with it. I think if he where to kill someone, it would look ‘casual’ due to his mask (ignoring body language) but as soon as it’s off and the doors are closed, it panic crying from there.

Yeah the idea of Hunter taking things too far not out of malicious intent but because his reading on violence or the pain scale being messed up for him is always a bit comedic if not utterly depressing.

Been seeing some discussion on Hunter’s kill count so let me throw in my interpretation

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Hunter isn’t some cold blooded killer. In fact in the show we see him avoid doing any messy work. Like having the owl gang try to kill the selkidomous or letting Luz and the Palismen go. Or the fact that during the fight with Amity he never did anything to imply he was trying to kill her, he didn’t even try restraining her. He just was trying to snatch the key and leave the entire fight. If anything, it was Amity pulling out the hurting and restraining moves lol.

But rather where I think there is violence was because of the inherent nature of the two missions. Mission 1 was him trying to kill the selkidomous, the only reason that didn’t happen was because there was people there to do it for him (even if they didn’t). So that makes me wonder, where there other beats killing missions he had to do? I’d imagine so, and I guarantee he didn’t have anyone to the work for him those times. So there’s that, Hunter killing some beasts.

Mission 2 was the palismen , and also before the mission we see him handing a palismen to Belos. So yeah, dude has probably taken ownerless palismen in the past, and has given palismen to Belos to kill and eat so theirs that. I don’t think he’s directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of palismen but numbers do add up.

Also another thing I want to mention is direct responsibility, I’d imagine a lot of the violence or deaths caused by Hunter weren’t directly from him but the consequences of his job.

Now next is where we can be a bit imaginative, I pretty sure it’s stated in the show that Hunter only goes on missions on the weekends. So dude is pretty much just hanging out in the castle in the weekdays. That means he was probably doing paperwork, and considering he’s a coven head, he has a lot of power. So on the weekends rather than him going on missions, he was sending out scouts. That means anything that the scouts did, that he may have sent was also partially his responsibility. So if the scouts where to arrest, or kill any witches, then Hunter would likely feel at minimum partially responsible (I feel like he’d feel incredibly guilty as if he directly killed them)

Now for the actual mission, obviously he’s likely captured wild witches. While he was shown to struggle a bit but learn and adapt with palismen magic. When we see him with his artificial staff, he’s highly skilled with it. He fought pretty calmly with Luz and Eda at the shores and can travel a high speeds with it. I’d be more amazed if he didn’t manage to arrest anyone. Anyways, so here’s Hunter, he’s arrested some wild witches and he’s proud of himself. He takes them to the conformatium, he thinks that’s the end of it only for those witches to be privately petrified. We know that public petrifications hadn’t happened in 30 years but we see that they still happen in private.

It’s a bit dubious if we know if Hunter knew of these petrifications or not, much less arresting witches knowing they’re going to be petrified. But I think he possibly may have considering in Hollow mind he excuses those death of the sigil witches as just Belos perfecting sigil magic and literal terrorism for the greater good.

That’s where I think a kill count comes to play, that Hunter arrested wild witches knowing there may have been a possible chance of them dying. Therefore making him a factor for death. (Not to confuse with cause of death)

Another idea is him accidentally killing, like using too much force or miscalculating a spell. Another idea is killing in self defense. Assassinations aren’t much of a surprise in the castle so I don’t doubt there’s a chance that he may have killed an assassin or someone trying to cause bodily harm on him. Again a situation of a fight with a wild witch going too far. I don’t doubt a wild witch willing to fight Hunter to death knowing it was likely he was going to arrest them and lead them to a possible death.

One more, a messed up one but one that isn’t too out of character is having Belos having Hunter test his loyalty by being able to kill for him. Or Belos having Hunter kill someone in the privacy of the castle, like a traitor coven member (I doubt Raine and the Cats are the first to attempt a infiltration) Hence, where the context I was thinking of for this drawing actually comes from. (“May Titan have mercy on you”).

Again this is me just counting deaths and not any other potential violence he may have committed (not resulting in deaths. Even if someone doesn’t die, the violence inflicted upon them could still be life changing. The idea of Hunter giving someone a disability or trauma is pretty sad :( and not even impossible). Hunter in the show is pretty desensitized to violence in the way he talks about it or thinks of it in Any sport in a storm and Hollow mind.

So yeah, that’s my Hunter kill count, a couple if beasts, dozens of palismen and handful of actual witches, my guess 3-6. Could be higher but I’m trying to be a bit more realistic, even if I admittedly want to dramatize it lol.

Anyways that my rambles, anyone have their own thoughts on this?

People still reblog this post specifically, might have to draw more grinwalker stuff on top of 100 other ideas I have

Grimwalker powers!

Galdorstone edition!

been thinking about caleb haunting hunter after belos dies and, since he cant move on and never got to be a father, he takes care of hunter and tries to make sure hunter doesnt find out so he doesnt get scared

Hunter AU

A sneak peak sketch of an au of Hunter!

I’m currently naming it DOG Au but that might change in this future.

In this Au, Belos previous Golden Guard had lasted 27 years, with Belos truly believing that he was the ‘one’, only for the Guard to betray him. This is the most emotion and even hurt Belos has felt in decades and as he results he vows that the next one will be perfect. As a result he raises Hunter differently then his previous Grimwalkers. For starters, that Hunter is created at age 3 unlike the young adults of before.

Belos and Hunter are also closer in this au (for the worst) With Hunter no longer just being his right hand man but also the man’s eyes and hands in general. Which is him essentially doing more of the messy work then shown in canon. With Belos teaching Hunter more things (including personal ) then in Canon. He teaches Hunter how to replicate bile magic with his staff along side staff exclusive magic, potions, and even glyphs. He tells Hunter that only he the Emperor and the Golden Guard are permitted to use true wild magic as they are the only ones that can maintain it. He still doesn’t let Hunter use wild magic to help his curse still.

Hunter is aware he’s a Grimwalker.

However, no one besides Belos knows Hunters face in this, not even the coven heads like in canon. Hunter was also a lot more isolated in his childhood with him only appearing for scout training at age 11 for scout training and passing with flying colors ( beating record set by Lilith) Before Hunter was raised and taught by Belos only, essentially messing him up during his primary developing years. Only after he was 11 was he allowed high end tutors and training outside of Belos. He officially became Golden guard at 13.

Hunter is still a dork in this au but he was taught more masking and manipulations skills by Belos. He did a lot of Belos dirty work and is overall more ruthless with the hopes of being the perfect grimwalker. He still acts similar then in canon but with a additional layer of grime to him.

Canon events in the show involving Hunter play out quite differently in this AU

A more detailed explanation when I actually finish these drawings lol

Here’s a sketch of his suit in this AU

Shadow working at the mean bean cafe post canon sonic 3

They are so found family

A redraw

Punk Huntlow is so real. Two alternative baddies fr

Two punks in love

Hey I think I asked you about your Detroit become human au before a bit ago but I love the idea so much! I know you’re super busy but if you can I would love to see more about it!

Sorry for asking about it again I’m just really interested in it. 😭🙏

No please don't be sorry I love to talk about it whenever I'm not creatively bankrupt!! I'm just sorry it took so long for me to actually think of new stuff to add

I had some of these doodles already prepared but never really finished them up until I came up with a cute little idea

I didn't think of where to put in Flapjack until I remembered that android animals existed, and then I had a brain blast moment where I realized that Hunter can still talk to Flapjack! They are little android buddies, they can interface and talk and be friends!! I think it would also help to make him feel a bit more comfortable with his identity as an android to be able to have his little buddy to have fun private conversations with. Camila introduces them (maybe he had gotten hurt by a previous owner and she found him and let Gus fix him up) and Hunter is a bit tentative about it at first, but Flapjack is adorable and sweet and quickly wins him over

I just now had the idea that Gus, since he's super into android stuff, would probably be a big resource for software and hardware difficulties. Oh, you fell and your arm is working kinda wonky? Call up Gus, he'll crack you open and take a look. The dude doesn't mind in the least, he freaking LOVES going down mechanical and coding rabbit holes to better understand how androids work. I like to think that if Hunter ever got hurt and chose not to accept help because of body/species dysphoria, Gus would be a really good resource for him to try and feel as normal as possible while he's getting fixed. Gus is his brother and he loves him and they're just good to each other okay? Gus would probably crack some jokes or something to get Hunter's mind off it, or infodump about android organs or something (and Hunter would be begrudgingly interested because they are nerds, and Hunter is interested in androids too underneath all the problems he has with deviancy. Like dude they're robots, what's not to love?)

Also some Gus being so over Hunter's "androids can't feel love" phase featuring Vee and Masha being very adorable and very obviously in love :) Hunter is a very silly stupid man. He will find any way to make literally everyone exempt from the terrible rules Philip fed him, except for himself

I'm trying to think of a potential situation that would parallel Hunter's possession, and I think it would probably be basically the same thing that happens in Connor's deviant path (when he deviates and joins the revolution as an ally) where Amanda (a separate AI in his programming that's basically how CyberLife keeps him in check) takes over Connor's programming last minute to try and put a stop to the revolution.

So my current thought is that Philip is basically using Hunter as a trojan horse. His main programming is to act and believe like he's a normal human but similar to Connor, he's basically a sleeper agent without knowing. I imagine that once Hunter gains access to his software (thanks to Vee and Gus), he starts finding programs and files that are labeled as pretty scary things. He shouldn't have to know the most efficient way to shut an android down or incapacitate a human.

If and when Philip finally goes looking for Hunter and sees the first android he's seen in Gravesfield besides Hunter (aka Vee), he's not going to take that well.

I haven't drawn anything for it but so far I'm thinking that he takes control of Hunter's programming, maybe through some taking advantage of his interfacing system, and locks him in his own head a la Connor and Amanda to sic him after Vee and Flapjack (assuming that Philip's main goal, similar to both canons, is to eradicate deviants). It's likely that his friends will try to apprehend him, Vee or Gus will try (and maybe fail a couple times) to delete the programming while Camila deals with Philip. The guy is old and decrepit and Camila would absolutely whoop his ass with the ease of swatting a fly.

Things will be fine; Vee is all good and they manage to delete whatever programming screwed with Hunter's control, but that kid is going to be HELLA anxious about interfacing again from then on since he's afraid of 1) losing his own control and 2) potentially passing the virus onto someone else. It could go two ways at that point: Hunter could either kill Flapjack since Flapjack is technically a deviant android and therefore a target, or we can be nice and let Flapjack live to help him heal from this brand-new trauma.

So yeah hopefully that sates some curiosity! I'm glad you're interested in it because I honestly really love to think of new stuff whenever my brain decides to work hahaha

i will prrrrooooobably still do some tweaks, but I'll call it for the night.

honestly one thing that confused me about toh is how hunter reacted to the revelation that he was a grimwalker. his initial reaction was realistic but later, he seems more worried about having his friends find out that he's a grimwalker than he was about.. BEING a grimwalker.

think about it. if you found out that you were a CLONE of someone else, made by your abusive uncle to fill a role, wouldn't you spiral into existential crisis? especially if you also have the information that there were a dozen other clones before you, and they were all MURDERED by your super awesome uncle?

just the idea of being a clone and being a replacement for someone else is impossible to wrap your head around. i can't imagine how i would feel if i was faced with such information. what other people would think of it would be the LEAST of my worries.

hunter however seems to readily accept the idea that he's a clone. the only time he seems to even think about caleb is during the montage in the first episode of s3 where he cuts his hair after getting a traumatic flashback. but even that is more connected to belos himself rather than the reality of being a grimwalker.

i understand that the series was cut short but i never understood why they put so much emphasis on how willow, gus and amity would react to the news of hunter being a grimwalker.

on one hand, sure, hunter is afraid of losing his new friends. it makes sense. it's his first time being truly accepted and loved by people, and he doesn't want to lose that.

but on the other hand, it seems like he came to terms with the whole grimwalker thing pretty quickly. he doesn't think of its implications, he doesn't take time to ruminate on it or come to terms with it, he just.. doesn't seem to care about it that much at all.

i feel like one of these things is a bit more important than the other.

i just feel like hunter's entire storyline had so much potential for some serious existential crisis and psychological horror even, but the creators barely scratched the surface.

(and again, i wouldn't be saying this if the creators hadn't chosen to focus on completely unnecessary characters and plotlines with the little runtime they had.)