Idk but generally that is not how radical feminism works.
Wasn't the whole "scientific proof" of transgender identities being that trans people supposedly have a brain wired like the opposite sex (or I guess for nonbinary people, just atypically)? I saw that notion all over the place and actually believed it for some time. How else can it be innate if it's not related to brain structure/chemistry?
You can acknowledge gendered socialization being a thing and still prioritize educating women over men. It's much less of a uphill battle since feminism is already in women's interest more. If it benefited men equally, I don't doubt that radfems would put as much effort in educating men.
I would also think about separatism and the 4B movement kind of like a strike as well.
And still dude, what are you proposed solutions? Completely dodged that one.
We used to make fun of people for saying "not all men" it was beautiful
BRO FUCKING EXACTLYYYY
LIKE RELATIONSHIPS AREN'T FUCKING CHARITY AND THEY'RE SERIOUS COMMITTMENTS USUALLY
AND ITS RAPE RHETORIC TO REQUIRE SOMEONE TO GIVE SEX REGARDLESS OF REASON
I feel like people aren’t ready for sex if they think someone rejecting them is a hate crime
YESSS WE HAVE HOPE
lowkey getting tired of self defeatist blackpill attitudes "the patriarchy will never end" Why not? We went from using boats to rockets in like 200 years but you think men will forever have privilege in society? Why do you think that?
Lmao sure ok?
So how the fuck would you treat a child equal to an adult?
Because from my memory, the last time that was close to a thing (aka at least treating kids who hit puberty like adults), we had child labor and child marriages, and school wasn't required after like 6th grade.
So, do children have the maturity for all that, or is it necessary to be "ageist"?
thoughts on youthlib?
Honestly I had basically no idea about this movement but I just looked it up.
It makes some sense, like for rights to education, protecting children from child abuse, etc.
However, I don't see how it's a good idea to get rid of "ageism" towards young people since it's just a fact that children are immature and shouldn't be treated equal to adults.
How about you? (you can just send me another anon message saying "youthlib anon here" or something)
A lot of people do and have used that as a scientific proof. Again, how else can be considered innate? Regardless, perpetuating those societal roles is still problematic though, even if some people don't have a bioessentialist take.
"Women are already more drawn to feminism" yeah I mean that's kinda the point in why trying to encourage women to be feminist activists is more likely to be successful. Men don't really have a big reason to be feminist. Trying to change feminism to cater to men is also often counterintuitive.
Male socialization also doesn't just end by going and telling men not to be misogynists. I am not sure the exact ways to end that at this moment since it's pretty complex, I would guess it would be gradual as social standards are changing and if children are raised differently.
And, well I mean feminism activism has existed for like 200 years and made strides, so we do indeed have action plans. I also laid out specific policies and reasons as well, which many feminist groups are working towards. But sure I guess feminists don't have any action plan because some tumblr users aren't personally ending patriarchy with their blogs.
I'm guessing you're male and want to discredit all of this because you think feminism is useless or bad, but that's demonstrably false.
We used to make fun of people for saying "not all men" it was beautiful
And there's this and then the "well i used to be a rapist but now I'm woke" brand of male anarchist. I met the latter once too.
The safe to be around crowd is at it again
Well,
1. Radical feminism isn't just for developed countries. Who told you that was the case?
I can agree, things have gotten better in countries with more feminist policies, but these things certainly have not been there even in "developed" countries for "more than a century". Need I remind you the fact that 50 years ago women weren't allowed to have bank accounts without a mans permission in America? Or that marital rape was only fully illegal in the US as of 1993? And dude look, abortion was made illegal again in many states, a lot of them overlap with the ones that have the most issues with teen pregnancy and child marriage (red states). This is another specific issue.
But enough about America alone. Globally, women's rights have been recently taking a turn for the worse.
You can't undo literal millennia of oppression in only 50 years, and yes attitude and perceptions around women's rights is also important to push policies. Policy doesn't come out of thin air and people generally don't protest for things they don't think they need.
2. I provided specific policies already. It's not my fault if you can't read. And boycotts or each of these polices are just examples, not the full solution. It's a lot more complex and gradual. For example, living women the right to vote also didn't get rid of the patriarchy but it did help. Telling the suffragettes they should give up protesting and that it's hopeless for women to have equal rights however, was not. How are you going to accuse us of doomerism and then delegitimize all political activism and call it useless?
3. The ideas of male and female socialization are pretty integral to radfem theory on gender. If you had doubts, then you can just ask her. No need for charades. What tells you "that person doesn't actually agree that the problem lies in socialisation" lmao?
4. That's the thing, we're against gendered socialization in general. There's not really much to be done in policy at this time, other than trying to educate people get rid of the notion that male and female brains are significantly different or that people are hard-wired as feminine vs masculine because of their brain's gender. Gender ideology/activism did push this back a bit in the scientific field.
What are your proposed solutions or specific issues you want addressed? I hear a lot of criticism from you but... no suggestions?
We used to make fun of people for saying "not all men" it was beautiful
Look up what mirror means. You use the same arguments against asexuals that homophobes use against gay people. Basically word for word. It's insane.
I don't think that, just as I don't think it's mental illness and unnatural to not feel sexual attraction. I'm mirroring your language.
I understand you misplaced your brain but please find it soon, I beg you.
I think this deserves its own post without my personal ramblings mixed in:
Whenever anyone panics or whines or scaremongers about the higher rate of women attending university, it's important to examine why more women are motivated to attend university in the first place, because I guarantee you it's no female privilege of any sort that's driving more women to obtain university degrees.
Specifically you need to look at the job opportunities that are available to men without a university degree vs. the job opportunities available to women without university degrees.
A lot of the jobs / sources of income that are stable and pay well despite not needing university degrees, trade jobs like a mechanic or a plumber or a welder, are heavily male dominated industries. And male dominated industry is pretty synonymous with hostile towards women. I cannot blame women who resist entering a field they're likely to face a lot of harassment, bullying, and even assault for daring to be a woman who enters a male dominated job.
And when you look at the types of jobs that are available to women who don't attend university often most of their opportunities are going to be food service or retail, jobs that pay less than a living wage for you to be on your feet all day facing constant verbal abuse from customers and managers alike.
So if a woman wants to be paid her own living wage and lower her chances of having to deal with abuse and harassment in the workplace, then she's more likely to be pushed to having to go to university.
There are of course exceptions to this (after all nothing is black and white and everything has nuance) such as many technician jobs in the medical field don't require a university degree, and are female dominated, and fetch a decent salary above what a service industry employee might make.
But overall it's interesting when you compare a lot of "pink collar" jobs like nurse or primary school teacher vs blue collar jobs like mechanic or plumber, the wages are comparable, but the "pink collar" jobs like nurse or primary school teacher will require a university degree whereas the blue collar jobs with a similar salary don't.
So when someone tries to worry and panic over the poor boys not going to university as much as their female counterparts and site the higher rates of women attending university as some sort of female privilege, to be perfectly honest I hardly consider it a privilege to need a university degree just to have a living wage without having to face harassment for entering a male dominated industry, to have more schooling than a man just so you can earn the same wages as his or even lower.
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